Holly ([info]ercasse_ainince) wrote,
@ 2004-11-19 14:02:00
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Entry tags:feminine, gender roles, literature, masculine

::Skips the usual "sorryIneverupdatenotmyfaultnohomeconnectionwishIweremotivated"::

So after a fabulous weekend at the Texas Renaissance Festival (Mer and I had decided to run away and follow the Ren Faire, sort of like joining the circus, only cooler), I came home and, within ten hours, had two flat tires. My front passenger-side tire burst about forty feet from my driveway. I had to go and get roommie [info]supermer's cousin, who doesn't know me, from across the street to come help me change to my spare. I didn't know that I had a spare, but I did. I had a deposition in Clinton the next morning, and I was told I could make it on the spare if I got a new tire right afterward.

I didn't make it.

My spare burst on the highway, and I had to pull over and call tripleA and get towed to a tire place. Fun times.

But for some reason, my mood has dramatically improved since last week. I am really chipper today, notwithstanding the fact that I worked over twelve hours yesterday. (I had a deposition in Whiteville, two and half hours away. It started at 3:00 and finished at 6:30. I wasn't home until 9:00.) Today, however, I got off at noon. My inexplicable cheerfulness hasn't worn off.

I have pictures from the Texas Ren Fest (roommie's digital pictures). Can I post them here just from the CD, or do I have to get a website to host them? I don't know much about such matters.

And now, what you've all been waiting for:

Recent movies that portray men dressed as women are usually comedies. Examples: Some Like it Hot, White Chicks, Sorority Girls. However, movies that portray women dressed as men are usually more serious. Examples: Disney's Mulan, Yentle (sp?). Men's dressing as women is funny while women's dressing as men is more serious. Why so?

My experience with women-dressed-as-men movies is that the cross-dresser is doing so to gain respect or to do something that she is told is outside of her gender role. Rarely is it an issue of homosexuality. She wants to protect someone or to earn more money or somehow improve hers or others' lives. Her cross-dressing is a statement that she is a man's equal. It is serious.

My experience with men-dressed-as-women movies (those that aren't examining a theme of homosexuality) is that the cross-dresser is forced into the situation and wishes to get out of it as quicly as possible. He is quite uncomfortable in his feminine disguise, probably because he knows how laughable he looks. We find men dressed as women funny, hilarious even. The cross-dresser is indignant at and made miserable by being treated as a woman.

One explanation might be to take a feminist approach and say that the patriarchy is biased in favor of that male and that the male is better treated, better appreciated, and better respected. Although sexism may certainly play a part, I do not find this explanation satisfactory.

Consider some of Shakespeare's comedies that involve cross-dressing. He has far fewer men dressed as women than he has women dressed as men. In Shakespeare's day, women dressed as men were funny, as men dressed as women are funny today. Why so?

My theory is that it has to do with how defined each gender role is.

I will be the first to admit that gender (not "sex") is a continuum, a range. I am a female who thought myself a tomboy growing up because I preferred blocks to Barbies. When I went to college, I was told I am ultra-feminine because of my liking for skirts and the color pink and romantic literature. Nevertheless, we human beings still have individual and collective concepts of what is masculine and what is feminine. It is these concepts to which I will be referring below.

In Shakespeare's day, women had the more defined role. Women were supposed to be meek, mild, sweet, modest, chaste. Men could be anywhere on the scale from a testosterone-pumped warrior to a monk to a simpering poet. Theirs was the wider gender role. So it was funny to take these women from their very confined gender role and to put them in doublet and hose and make them swagger and talk loudly, something far beyond their role.

Because of the feminist movement, the width of gender roles has reversed. Women are encouraged to work outside the home, to build up muscular strength, to engage in physical activity, to be in positions of power. It is still acceptable for a woman to be a stay-at-home mom or a seamstress. It is now acceptable for a woman to be an athlete or a CEO. Where do we leave the men? To preserve their masculinity, they are forced into a role of ultra-masculinity. They must be better athletes than their athletic girlfriends, make more money than their CEO wives, in order to feel masculine. And since their role is more circumscribed, we now find it funny to make them dress as women.

That's my theory. Comments welcome.



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[info]icarus_suraki
2004-11-19 04:10 pm UTC (link)
Just as a side note, sociological and psychological studies indicate that a large number (N.B.: not all) of male transvestites and/or cross-dressers are actually heterosexual. I can't explain the rationale, not having read the entire reports and case studies.

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[info]startrails
2004-11-22 08:13 pm UTC (link)
In my opinion, forcing someone into a more structured gender role would create more humor than taking someone from a structured role and putting him or her in a less structured one. I see what you're saying, but I'm thinking that the reason I (might) find a man dressing as a woman funny is that he is forced into something very rigidly defined. You can usually tell this by the clothing and makeup he wears. Somehow, the clothing and makeup make him a woman, even though he might not really change anything else. A skirt, high heels, and lipstick are signposts that, ok, here is a woman. When you know that this supposed woman is really a man, you begin to wonder how he is going to cope with suddenly having to deal with these clothing items (and the stereotypical behaviors that go with them) and you laugh because you think he will have a hard time (since men do not have to deal with such items, they are not used to it, whereas women are because they are used to being restricted). With women dressing as men, I see it often as a disguise. The woman remains a woman underneath, but puts on a covering of "man" so that she can obtain or do what she could not as a woman. The gender role for a man is larger because it can fit a man as a man and a woman as a man. So I am arguing that women's roles are more circumscribed, and that it is this that makes men dressing as women funnier than women dressing as men.

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Contact Information
[info]amyzilla
2004-12-08 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Hey Holly,

I'm trying to put together my wedding guest list. I don't have your contact information. Could you send me it? My e-mail is the same that it's always been. If you don't have mine, let me know and I'll post it here. I just don't want to place it here if I don't have to do so. I'm afraid of webcrawlers picking it up and getting a lot of spam that way. Let me know. Thanks!!!

Take care!

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Re: Contact Information
[info]ercasse_ainince
2004-12-12 08:07 pm UTC (link)
I e-mailed it to the address I have for you. If you didn't get it, you'll need to let me know how to contact you.

Take care!

Holly

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Re: Contact Information
[info]amyzilla
2004-12-13 12:26 am UTC (link)
Hello Holly-Darling,

I didn't receive your contact information, so send it to sillyamyzilla@yahoo.com. That's not my real e-mail address. That's my throw away address for online registering, etc. I'm giving it to you like this in case webcrawlers pick it up to send me junk. Whenever I receive your info, I'll send my real one then. Thanks so much for putting up with me!!!

Amy

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[info]chriscraigcomin
2004-12-11 06:18 am UTC (link)
Hey, I read a reply post of yours from an old livejournal conversation about cellar door and I'm fairly curious about the subject. If you could get back to me and maybe shed some light it would be cool. Online I'm ourloveasarson (aim) and my e-mail is end_al_rescate@yahoo.com. Thanks.

Chris

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[info]ercasse_ainince
2004-12-12 08:12 pm UTC (link)
I've added you to my AIM list, but I'm rarely online (as I'm without a home Internet connection). What about the "cellar door" conversation interests you? I can tell you that J. R. R. Tolkien made the comment in his book (collection of essays, really) The Tolkien Reader, but I'm not sure in which essay. It may have been in "Tree and Leaf."

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[info]chriscraigcomin
2004-12-13 02:28 am UTC (link)
Hmmm, well, I'm would really like to know exactly why it is so perfect. I understand that there is something about it to a certain degree but I'd like to know exactly what it is about the sounds themselves that make the word perfect. I looked up a little about some linguistic styles but I also do not have internet at the moment so the research has been slow going. After all, isn't that what the internet is good for?

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